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ALISAIE IS HERE NOW TOO
WHAT DO I DO?
I AM VERY HAPPY AND VERY CONCERNED

[After a little bit, because his phone keeps pinging-]

o shit both of them

ok yeah concern valid now thats too much good in like 1 month

should we pretend to be mad @ each other so they think we're miserable??? will that balance it

I don't know

Do you think that those arseholes ruining offworlder relations with the natives counts as balancing shite out??

I had been spending months working on a thing and now it's been all bollocksed up so far as I know. Maybe that's enough? Because I am really upset about that (°ㅂ°╬) just not as upset as I am happy to see my baby siblings again so I don't know

ugh dont get me started on that

[Doesn't help that it was his Shield who happened to be one of those arseholes.]

theres barely any logic to how this place works half the time... i dont think PR is ruined forever, but its probably gonna suck 4 a while.

hey look on the bright side maybe theyre here bc of the work u were doing

Alphinaud is a wonderful diplomat, and Alisaie is emotional in the best of ways. They both are full of such love and kindness.

Maybe the deities approved of the progress I was making and thought I could use more help? I can't think of anyone better than those two to help with my efforts.

Many of the priests of Ohma and I are not what I would call friends, but not not friends. I was working on the other temple priests as well. Ainea's are very sweet. Diacht's trend to being headstrong, and Rawna's are not arseholes but I don't know how else to describe them. I wonder if the imbalance toward Rawna has influenced them more toward apathy than logic?

Luckily Ohma's temple is near enough to me that I was able to resume my visits very quickly. The others are still difficult to walk or fly to, but Ardbert has been checking in.

I like Ohma's priests a lot — when it comes to knowledge they are quite open to sharing what they know. And they have access to resources to find some answers for what they don't know. They looked into something for me when I asked, and were so helpful! Hythlo enjoy playing with the temple cats (they like his wings) and the priests will babysit him sometimes...

I was very concerned about them, you know? They may not be flesh and blood, but they are fragile in other ways.

i think its fair to worry... u would have to be pretty cold not to at least a little. theyre still ppl and all. plus them being super happy feels kind of fake sometimes? like theyve been facing down the end of the world 4 so long, how could any1 be so happy all the time. us being here cant be THAT exciting, esp after this long. i think they were putting on a show. i think theyve been scared 4 a long time, and now we added to the things theyre scared of

the ppl at the temples have been good 2 me as well. they let me stay there 4 so long when dad was asleep, and cor too, and when i woke up a huge mess after the crystal & didnt want 2 go home yet. and the ppl at rawnas put up w/ me using the grounds for training

I wonder though... Are we in the minority who think this?

I think they've forgotten important things and either can't access their saved memories again or someone is making them too scared to for some reason. There are archives and stored information... It's weird that it isn't open and available to everyone. Maybe someone in charge thinks it's better they can't remember what they lost? I'm not sure. I feel so sorry for them.

I was trying to understand the divide between the temples and the research towers but I don't think the priests even really understand it, it's been going on for so long. If they could just work together I think they could find answers...

I know there are things being kept from us, but what have we done to deserve their trust with sensitive information? We haven't done much to prove ourselves, and now whatever confidence was built has been shattered. It was so short-sighted and selfish.

It frustrates me, but perhaps that's why Alisaie and Alphinaud are here now. If anyone can help mend rifts it would be them.

Right?

[ If they're of immense benefit to the city then she shouldn't have to worry about being happy to be reunited, right? Right??? ]

idk if many ppl think much of the robots at all. its not like we spend much time talking abt them. the ones ive gotten to know are pretty cool tho? i feel as if u would like calda, any time i find her in the city shes got a new story abt punching monsters

but ya them having robot bodies is great for the living-forever thing but not so good for plenty else. ppl can hack computers and phones and w/e, so if ur brain is a computer, some1 can hack that if they figure out how. instead of installing new mems like w/ us (ha) they could just delete anything. its p messed up to think about. i would b scared too

if we were enemies id be all for breaking in and stealing w/e we need to get by, but we rly arent. and maybe its naive to trust that theyre being genuine about not bringing us here themselves or knowing how to get us home again, but ive been around enough ppl struggling to cope w/ a bad situation to get the same vibe u know? plus like..... i know its selfish of me 2 not rly try to go home. some of us dont have much 2 go back to, staying here for awhile is better than that

thats grim but like. yeah

i gotta take ur word for it on how capable they are lol but from what u have said so far then yeah probably??

I think calling them robots dehumanizes them. It makes it too easy to forget they used to be people. They have robotic bodies but they aren't robots. They have souls and feelings.

Calda?? She sounds really cool if she tells stories like that.

You remember Tim? He's the tailor I go to all the time & invited to my wedding? He and the random priest I got to officiate my wedding ceremony are dating now. It's really cute! He likes coming up with new ideas for Ohma-themed sashes to make for Sudryl, and toys for the temple cats to play with.

The smithy natives are also really cool. They have the tools they need built right into their bodies! It took a while of proving myself to know what I'm doing before they let me rent forge time and be unsupervised. We don't talk much because there's no need, and there is a fun camaraderie.

Yeah I think that something has gone wrong with their memory archives. Either from running out of storage space and placing parts of their memories into archives bit by bit over time until eventually they forget the important things, or by someone tampering with the system.

They remind me a lot of the Amaurotines... They are kind and curious and keen of mind, seeking ways to be creative and help their community, but also are naive in a way that is sometimes childish. They thought going into mechanical bodies would save their dying world and all it did was make things worse.

I wonder if the scientists feel guilty for that? Whoever came up with the concept, and all the people who worked on it... And then the people were reluctant and pressured into it.

When I was still knew and learned all of that my first instinct was that they wanted to make clones of us, or use our DNA to make themselves new biological bodies. I'm ... If I'm honest... I think that may still be a very real possibility, but I don't believe it to be quite so nefarious anymore. If they are desperate... I cannot blame them. The things Ardbert and I have done and sacrificed to save our worlds and our people... When you are backed into a corner like that you will do anything.

I think... They don't necessarily see us as competent due to our biological limitations, and sometimes it feels... infantilizing. I don't like it, but I know it comes from a good place. They forget mortal limitations and are still learning. It's up to us to remind them, isn't it? What our limits are and how far beyond them we can push.

The bridge between us and the natives isn't their fault, but ours. It's why I've been working hard to build more relationships with them this year...

What if we threw a party for the natives this year?

They had a big party for us last year. Why don't we return the favour? We could make displays about things from each of our own worlds, maybe a little fashion show, some music from our homes. A big party to share our cultures with them, and thank them for all the ways they have tried to help us?

ahh i guess. maybe ive just stopped thinking of robots as like, NOT ppl. learned that on my last trip back home

calda is the local who took me somnus and pyra outside the barrier awhile back. she has this big mecha suit body instead of a regular one when she scouts so if shes working u cant miss her. shes outside the wall more often than not tho, i think she likes it out there. more adventurous than most ppl in town so ig she chose her job wisely lol

u can kind of follow the logic of it, but ya they probably should have done more experimenting b4 they went all out. like maybe HALF of the population switches over and see how the world handles it... or maybe it was just so bad off they couldnt wait. but things are so much worse now! they rly jumped the gun.

i cant imagine how i would feel if i was part of the ppl who suggested this & almost killed the world. def guilty, so im sure ur right there. like if i crawled out of the crystal & bahamut was like "lol j/k im just gonna destroy the world & all ur work was 4 nothing" id freak out??? this would b even worse since they saw their world dying and killed it even harder themselves

they have good reason 2 b protective of us, tho i dont like it any more than u. hell they would have good reason 2 clone us, ya. if we r the only ones that can help, & we're in such short supply, what would they do if we all were too reckless & got ourselves killed? if some1 made the wrong call and a bunch of us died, they'd have 2 answer for it & probably get in a ton of trouble. theres agency and then theres politics and theyre not gonna figure out the balance unless we push in a way that they can work with. breaking and stealing their shit isnt gonna do it

i never thought of giving them a party... that could b neat, tho. theyre so fascinated w/ us so sharing world info and culture would be a hit most likely

It just makes it sound like they were always like this. I understand what you mean, but after what happened ... I think too many people don't.

Oh that would explain why I've never met her. I avoid the wall as much as possible. I don't like thinking about it. It makes me feel sort of sick.

That's what happened with Amaurot, you know? The Convocation was desperate for salvation for their people. The world was dying too quickly and they did what they thought they had to.

Maybe the scientists are responsible for the missing memories? It would make sense, wouldn't it? Make everyone forget over time who was responsible, and rationalize it as making everyone happier... If they can't remember what it felt like to touch and taste and experience the world in the flesh then they can't be depressed by missing it, right?

If they treat us like fragile children, breaking things and stealing is like a child's tantrum. Whoever was responsible just proved them right. It's
I'm still so angry. We were stolen away, but have been treated as guests. Even when I was at my most resentful I would never have considered such a thing. It was so extreme. I just hope whatever they stole was worth all the damage they've done to everyone else.

A little exhibition/party as a show of good faith. Do you think it would be a good idea? I would not mind trying to organize something like that. The city council might be amenable if I request space to hold it, since they appreciated my asking their input on where to perform the Untempering.

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not knowing what they used 2 look like doesnt help. tho it doesnt seem like they remember either... thats effed up too. sometimes our bodies change here but at least we still know what we r

man even if the scientists DID make them forget i dunno if i could blame them. how long were they staring down the end of the world with no hope in sight, for ages and ages b4 we got here? it mustve been awful. maybe itd b better to forget than remember it was ur fault that every1 is dying. it wouldnt be RIGHT if the others didnt choose it, but still. i could see why

thats just theorizing tho, we dont know the answers and maybe they dont either. tbh i havent been given a good reason to doubt their sincerity but im also used to ppl paying the price 4 gods meddling too much lol. i cant b bitter about it or id have to reexamine by whole life

idk how to handle this rn its just a big mess... so... i guess ill just focus on what we do going forward. cant go back & change it now

it cant hurt 2 ask. idk if theyd be up for it for a while based on the mood of town tho... maybe like a public space, in one of the gardens? if id had 1 of my buildings attacked i wouldnt invite a bunch of ppl into another. gardens r nice and open. harder to lock ppl in 4 an ambush or w/e. they wont come if they dont feel safe w/ us

I wonder if that's why the archaeologists are particularly strict about protecting what new discoveries are made? I think they may be afraid of us ruining what pieces of their past are found. Which is understandable, all things considered. We at least know they were humanoid, but considering the vast number of humanoid races in my world that all look very different that does not say a whole lot.

My people are happier for having forgotten. It may not have been their choice, but at least for the Ancients it was an unforeseen consequence. I would like to believe it's the same in this case, though I admit to always being suspicious of scientists who are not forthcoming about things.

I will speak with the council and ask their input. If they give their blessing would you like to help me? My energy is still infuriatingly limited. Hades is recovering much more quickly than I am, so he will likely be able to assist as well, along with the rest of my household.

maybe. like it would suck if we found something that was actually really important to them and we tried to keep it. the stuff we found beyond the barrier way back when, they were cool about cooperating with us to let us keep what we wanted. they just wanted to check b4 we kept it to make sure it wasnt a thing they needed to get back. i dont think thats unreasonable?

idk. i just remember exploring the tombs in lucis 4 the old kings' weapons, and it was frustrating when one was damaged or broken into and the weapon was gone. like that was my familys, i never knew them & never would so it was the only thing connecting us, and someone took it... didnt feel right. so i get it. dont take or break what isnt urs, even babies know that

ill help if u wanna put something together, yeah. may as well use muscles 4 something useful lol

They've been very reasonable. Perhaps overzealous in some aspects, but that is understandable. I've been learning more about their faith, and they respect that I have my own. Both parties are interested in learning and understanding. It has been nice.

I'm sorry. Hopefully wherever they went they were able to help your people in some way.

In the meantime, perhaps think of what might be good souvenirs to give as gifts to them? I want them to have something physical to keep as a memory.

they stopped being annoying abt the celebrity stuff ages ago, for the most part. its nbd i dont mind them

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i could draw stuff from home and give away prints maybe... i dont do much creating bsides that tho. ill think about what 2 do

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